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  #21  
Old 09-08-2005, 10:31 AM
jinju jinju is offline
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Default Re: A great street / candid photographer

I agree with Filip. This guy isnt a good street phtographer, as he is basically stealing shots from far away. Honest street photography involves a short lens. Theres been a thread here about long lenses being for cowards. In street photography this is definately the case.
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: A great street / candid photographer

"It's an opinion, but I still find that some shots of this serie are really great."

I'm not the only one who thinks this way. Trust me, this is not street photography, mate, this is some guy trying to be a paparazzi.

But you said that some are "really great"...which ones?

"Some people realize the situation and most of them take pleasure to do it or at least are smiling."

I doubt that any of the people he photographed were aware of it. If they were, their faces would not be filled with smiles...more with anger. There are a few faces in that gallery that look as if they spotted him and don't look too happy about it.
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: A great street / candid photographer

Thanks Rafal. I really hate these kinds of shots...and there are a lot of people on PBase that do this kind of photography.
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Old 09-08-2005, 10:16 PM
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Default Some smiles....

Hello Filip,
I think this subject don't need to turn into a polemic.
I agree with you about the concept of "street photography", but I still think that this photographer as some great shots in his portfolio :

Some smiles :
http://www.pbase.com/manfred_b/image/48768369
http://www.pbase.com/manfred_b/image/45878524
http://www.pbase.com/manfred_b/image/44972972
http://www.pbase.com/manfred_b/image/42147016

Some nice pics ( in my opinion ):
http://www.pbase.com/manfred_b/image/42073281
http://www.pbase.com/manfred_b/image/43326712
http://www.pbase.com/manfred_b/image/43519849
http://www.pbase.com/manfred_b/image/47065138

I also agree with you, you're not the only one who think this way, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who find that some of these shots a really nice.
Good evening,
Peter
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: A great street / candid photographer

heheh I left him a comment with a link to an article maciej posted here before called "Telephotos are for cowards" :) No response yet.
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: Some smiles....

Its not so much about it being nice as the issue of how they were taken. They are nice in that they look nice. But so what? They are dishonest and cowardly IMO. I think a lot of importance has to be attached to the means we take photos. Its not like the ends (a nice image) justifies the means. You know? Im sure Filip will know what Im talking about, I think he critiqued a photos from Thailand where the photographer had waited 10 minutes after being told by her subject that she didnt want her photo taken. The photographer waited 10 minutes (yes, ten, not a typo) for her "opprtunity" and then clicked anyway JUST TO CLICK. The photo is nice, but the way it was taken is not. Can you imagine being basically stalked for 10 minuted and something done to you that you didnt want? In the end the photo has a girl covering her face, obvious why. The photographer laments that she "couldnt do what she wanted". So you see, nice images are not reason enough to go to any length to take them.
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:17 AM
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Filip didnt critique it, but Im sure he would be interested in doing so. Just look at the critiques I gave, around the 3rd or 4th page.
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Sorry

Now I did...
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: Some smiles....

This is not good photography. Sure, a woman may simile, but for every smile there is an angry face. One of the links you gave me shows a woman that spotted the photographer and she's not too happy about it. Anyway, this is not my cup of tea and I don't respect people who engage in such photography. Simple.
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:44 AM
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Well said, Rafal.
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